One of my frustrations with Hollywood

"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures) 08/08/2014 at 16:50 • Filed to: None

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With the exception of Rush, how many mainstream (films released nationwide in "standard" theaters) car films produced in the last 20-25 years can you name where the protagonist(s) doesn't commit a felony?

Blondude > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:51

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Well there's... wait, no... Oh! What about... nope, not that either. Hmmm...

Brian Silvestro > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:52

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The movies try to portray the average person's fantasy life, and that is how they do it.

Gamecat235 > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:54

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Not even:

or

FKA-RacecaR > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:55

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It's the idea of "Robin Hood", or underdog, or vigilante doing what needs to be done when the law won't. They all go together.

Dusty Ventures > Brian Silvestro 08/08/2014 at 16:55

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If the average person's fantasy life is about armed truck hijackings, dragging bank vaults through the streets, and stealing a bunch of cars so your brother doesn't die in a car crusher than I'm even more afraid of people than I was ten minutes ago.

Nibbles > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:57

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You just described my nightly dreams

Soloburrito > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:57

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Released in 1990

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Gamecat235 08/08/2014 at 16:58

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damnit he's right, I just re-watched cars with my 1.5 yr old.

He speed like a maniac, runs from the police, and even tries to escape imprisonment but ran out of gas on the way out of town.

DAMN

Alfalfa > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:58

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I'm going to take this a step further: With the exception of Rush, how many car films produced in the last 20-25 years didn't completely suck?

Dusty Ventures > FKA-RacecaR 08/08/2014 at 16:58

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Fine, I can understand that, but really does EVERY movie have to portray all car people as "Robin Hood" criminal vigilantes?

Brian Silvestro > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 16:59

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You should be! That's one reason I like being around car people who take their cars to the track or Auto/RallyX. We try to live out our fantasies in a safe environment, and don't bottle them up like the rest of society.

Brian Silvestro > Alfalfa 08/08/2014 at 17:00

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When was Senna made?

AM3R > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:01

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Think about it like this, how good of a car movie can you make without breaking laws? You'd have to make it a movie like rush where all the driving happens on a track or else it wouldn't be entertaining at all to the average non enthusiast movie goer.

Alfalfa > Brian Silvestro 08/08/2014 at 17:04

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I didn't think about documentaries. That would broaden the list a bit.

Brian Silvestro > Alfalfa 08/08/2014 at 17:05

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and "1"

I like that movie too.

RoadHead -- Armand > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:05

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Lol as I read this, a script is in front of me for just such a film. Filming begins Monday.

Dusty Ventures > AM3R 08/08/2014 at 17:05

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Alright, how about car movies where the protagonist doesn't commit a felony beyond speeding/moving violations?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:06

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I can only think of movies on the margin of "car" due to having a high speed chase but not being about cars: e.g. cop movies in which *cops* drive recklessly but presumably not feloniously. Other than that I'm stumped.

mcseanerson > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:12

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Sam was a spy.

AM3R > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:13

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Well it's not a movie, but besides tons of speeding/moving violations this seems to fit the bill. Well, I just wanted an excuse to post this..

mcseanerson > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:14

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Sam was a spy posing as a criminal.

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:14

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Everything James Bond does is legal.

Forgetful > Soloburrito 08/08/2014 at 17:14

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Ummm, street racing rental cars...

Dusty Ventures > Brian Silvestro 08/08/2014 at 17:14

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That's why I stipulated films that got major theatrical releases. Senna was "select theaters only."

Dusty Ventures > Gamecat235 08/08/2014 at 17:17

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I haven't seen "Lohan: Fully Loaded," but I'll give "Cars" a grey area pass. My issue is more with the car films where the "good guys" commit crimes beyond how they drive (robbery, assault, etc).

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:17

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Just bikes tho.

Gamecat235 > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:18

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Lightning attempts to escape from the police while he is in custody. That one, for me, is a big no no.

Lindsey, if I recall correctly, was a "recovering" street racer.

Dusty Ventures > AM3R 08/08/2014 at 17:19

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Exactly why I said "major theater releases." Otherwise the list could be filled with things like Senna, Love the Beast, Dust to Glory, etc. I do love that though

Brian Silvestro > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:20

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Yeah that's why I didn't mention it earlier. But I just had to bring it up.

Dusty Ventures > Forgetful 08/08/2014 at 17:20

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Oooh. Now there's a good call. Did it get a full theater release or was it "select theaters?" If full I'll totally allow it.

Dusty Ventures > Gamecat235 08/08/2014 at 17:21

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Fair enough

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:22

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Pretty sure it was a full release. I remember seeing TV commercials for it.

Dusty Ventures > mcseanerson 08/08/2014 at 17:24

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Grey area, but I'll allow it

Dusty Ventures > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/08/2014 at 17:25

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It's hard, right?

Textured Soy Protein > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:26

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Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:33

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He does get nailed for speeding in the movie.

Dusty Ventures > Textured Soy Protein 08/08/2014 at 17:34

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Driven was a crime in and of itself ;) but I think you're right (I've only seen pieces of it)

Love the Beast wasn't released in mainstream theaters

Speed's a bit of a grey area (took place on a bus, yes, but there aren't any "car people" per se, which is where my frustration lies: the portrayal of car people)

I'll give you Talladega Nights

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:34

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Suggestion by proxy: Talladega Nights. The only question is if the cougar was legal, and he does some aggressive driving on the public streets with the cougar in the car.

Dusty Ventures > Forgetful 08/08/2014 at 17:36

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Yeah, but I'm willing to overlook that one.

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:36

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Textured Soy Protein > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:37

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Well, it's not a felony, but in Driven, Sly and that other dude drive Indy cars recklessly on public roads.

Dusty Ventures > Forgetful 08/08/2014 at 17:40

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Right. I'm not debating that, I'm saying the reason I'm frustrated with Hollywood (and the reason I started this discussion) is that it seems like they always have "car people" committing some form of crimes (and often specifically crimes beyond their antics behind the wheel). Speed is a grey area because despite it taking place almost entirely in a moving vehicle I'm not sure I can really say there were any "car people" in the film.

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 17:41

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Ya sorry, for some reason I crossed the points you made about driven and speed.

Dusty Ventures > Forgetful 08/08/2014 at 17:42

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Ah, gotcha. Nice ninja edit by the way ;)

Soloburrito > Forgetful 08/08/2014 at 17:42

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Misdemeanor in Florida. Not a felony!

Forgetful > Soloburrito 08/08/2014 at 17:55

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Fair enough, but I think it's 'illegal' enough for the spirit of this discussion.

Forgetful > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 19:04

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Isn't there a scene in Rush that shows James Hunt doing cocaine?

Stephen the Canuck > Dusty Ventures 08/08/2014 at 20:29

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Born to Race. I don't think he committed any felonies. Just wrecked his sponsored drag strip ride during a street race.

Craig Stampfli > Soloburrito 08/08/2014 at 21:46

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This movie was a crime against humanity. Still watch it when it comes on tv though...

DipodomysDeserti > mcseanerson 08/09/2014 at 01:54

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As we all know, it's not a crime if you work for the CIA. #GWOT

Burrito de EJ25 > Dusty Ventures 08/09/2014 at 13:04

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Cars are for bad boys. You're not a bad boy. Go home, good boy.